When We Were Young

[00:00:01] Speaker A: All right. Three, two. Welcome to what you thinking, friend? I'm your host, Cody Linderberry with me. [00:00:28] Speaker B: As always, Ed Worrell. [00:00:31] Speaker A: How the hell are you, Ed? [00:00:33] Speaker B: You know, it's been a while, my friend. [00:00:37] Speaker A: It's been too long. [00:00:38] Speaker B: I think the last one we recorded with our previous podcast was like back in May. [00:00:45] Speaker A: Back in May. So a thousand years ago, back in May we actually did another podcast known as the drunk leading the blind. [00:00:55] Speaker B: And that was very like old school science TV of you. [00:00:59] Speaker A: Thank you. I'm giving my full effort as one can at 9:30 in the morning on a Sunday. [00:01:08] Speaker B: That's more effort than I've given it in a long time. [00:01:11] Speaker A: Oh my. Dude. Yeah, this is. We're going with it just because we're trying to do. We're growing up, Ed. [00:01:20] Speaker B: Grown old, but we still, still are like the ultimate cliche of two 40 year old white males doing a podcast. [00:01:29] Speaker A: Yes, sir. [00:01:30] Speaker B: Yeah, we can't change that thing. [00:01:33] Speaker A: No, no, no, no, no. Originally when we started this thing, it was the equivalent of being at a bar with some 20 somethings talking about porn for the blind. [00:01:44] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. [00:01:46] Speaker A: On Rock band microphones. Yeah, not even microphones. Microphone. [00:01:51] Speaker B: We were phone. [00:01:52] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. We were screaming at each other and trying to pick up the audio. [00:01:57] Speaker B: Right. [00:01:58] Speaker A: Since then we have nice little blue mice bond memories. Good times, man. [00:02:04] Speaker B: Good times. We gotta start simple. [00:02:06] Speaker A: Sometimes you gotta have humble beginnings. [00:02:10] Speaker B: There you go. [00:02:10] Speaker A: Yeah, and that's what this is going to be attempting to do right now. So why would, why would you say that we're trying to debrind from the prior drunk leading the Blind. I have my reason, but I want. [00:02:24] Speaker B: To grown up a little bit and I, I emphasize a little bit. Yeah, I just, I think better brand now. Yeah, we, we Both are now 40. [00:02:39] Speaker A: No, I'm. I'm getting closer. I'm closer to 40. [00:02:43] Speaker B: All right, you're 39. No, you're. You, you might as well just call it now, Cody. [00:02:47] Speaker A: I'm closer to 40 than I was. Wait, am I? Math is hard. [00:02:52] Speaker B: Math is hard at 9:30 on a Sunday. [00:02:54] Speaker A: Oh boy. Ain't that. Yeah, no, I'm closer to 40 than I am like 38, so. [00:03:00] Speaker B: Well, there you go. Well then you're almost 40, Cody. Yeah, I'm almost 41, so. [00:03:06] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:03:07] Speaker B: Yeah. So you put our ages together, we average 40. [00:03:11] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's how math works. [00:03:13] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. Math is hard and whether it's right or wrong, who cares? [00:03:18] Speaker A: That's the new math that they're teaching, right? [00:03:20] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Where it's all. It's all horizontal. [00:03:23] Speaker A: Sure. I. I don't even know. This is a problem. I don't have. I have a cal. [00:03:28] Speaker B: Right. I knew math. I just. Yeah. I don't know. I saw it one time and I'm like, that doesn't make any sense. But that's okay. I don't have to learn it, so I don't care. [00:03:37] Speaker A: Ed, tell me if you've heard this before. Well, you won't always have a calculator. [00:03:42] Speaker B: I did hear that in high school that I wouldn't always have a calculator. I've got one on my wrist. [00:03:47] Speaker A: You have one on your wrist now? [00:03:50] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:03:50] Speaker A: And we have one in our phone in our pockets at any given damn moment. In fact. Don't even lie. Mass. Majority of the time is not even in your. In your pocket. It's in front of you. [00:03:59] Speaker B: It's in your hand six inches from. [00:04:01] Speaker A: Your face, readily available to ruin somebody's fucking day with actual facts instead of guessing around on a Guinness book for random facts. [00:04:10] Speaker B: Actual facts. Huh? [00:04:12] Speaker A: But then we go, eh, you can still edit Wikipedia. Let's just say that I should start. [00:04:20] Speaker B: A Wikipedia for you and me and just make it ridiculous. [00:04:25] Speaker A: See, this gets into that territory of like the movie Royal Tenon Bombs where you get the obituary and it's like, he died saving a truck full of orphans. [00:04:39] Speaker B: That's absolutely what I'm writing for your. Something like those lines for your obituary. If I make it longer than you. [00:04:45] Speaker A: Please, please do I. [00:04:47] Speaker B: And that goes the same for me. [00:04:49] Speaker A: Oh, brother. I'm on it. Of course I'm gonna. I'm gonna tell your misses about, like, I need proofreading. [00:04:56] Speaker B: Oh, absolutely. [00:04:57] Speaker A: Yeah. And it's like. And. And your Mrs. Will be nice enough to tell you, like, hey, this isn't zany enough. [00:05:06] Speaker B: Yeah, first the. Throw some more fuel on that fire. [00:05:09] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. [00:05:11] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:05:12] Speaker A: Like, died as he lived, being on fire. I don't know. [00:05:16] Speaker B: It's on fire. What's that even mean? I don't know. [00:05:20] Speaker A: Fuego. [00:05:21] Speaker B: Fuego. Nice. [00:05:23] Speaker A: Yeah, bud. [00:05:25] Speaker B: So the sports announcer that. [00:05:27] Speaker A: Oh, that was Dan Patrick and Stuart Scott. [00:05:33] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:05:34] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:05:34] Speaker B: Back when Sports center was mildly interesting, brother. [00:05:38] Speaker A: That those were the days where you could just throw it on just because that was the only means of being able to find your team. Yes. Or like, the highlights of your team. [00:05:48] Speaker B: Yes. I. But then I also had to sit through all the other highlights of the other teams. [00:05:54] Speaker A: I mean, you were in for a power hour, and you might have had 15 seconds of your actual game depending on the season. [00:06:01] Speaker B: Oh, if that. I, I always have this conspiracy theory, and it's mine, mine alone, that ESPN hates the Atlanta Braves because anytime you, anytime you listen to a Braves game on espn, oh man, they can't say anything nice. [00:06:17] Speaker A: That's, that's a long standing hatred from the TBS days. [00:06:21] Speaker B: I think so. Yeah, I think so. Or at least that's my view on it. [00:06:26] Speaker A: Huh? [00:06:26] Speaker B: Yeah. And I'm sure there's sports teams that you pay attention to that anytime they get on national tv, it's always a hate. [00:06:34] Speaker A: Dude, I'm a Manchester United. I'm a Manchester United fan, man. So at any given. Yeah, I'm, I get hatred all the damn time. [00:06:42] Speaker B: They're, they're like a, we're not even good lately. [00:06:45] Speaker A: So. No, it's all good. [00:06:47] Speaker B: And the other thing, like, like with me, like the Atlanta Braves, whenever they're on Fox News, they usually have John Smoltz, which is a Hall of Fame Braves pitcher, as we all know, and a Hall of Famer. I swear it says something in his contract that he can't say anything nice about the Braves when they're on Fox. When they're on Fox Sports there I. [00:07:08] Speaker A: Think that they have him on a shock collar. [00:07:10] Speaker B: Probably anytime he thinks about saying something nice about his days in a Braves uniform, he gets shocked. [00:07:17] Speaker A: Absolutely. [00:07:18] Speaker B: Yeah, probably that would, that would make perfect sense to me. But I don't know. Who knows? [00:07:25] Speaker A: I don't know either, man. [00:07:26] Speaker B: Because then when he's on a Braves official Braves broadcast, he's like all super into being a Brave. [00:07:34] Speaker A: It's funny, it's, it's kind of comical. And actually because of that, again I say that we're so spry and ready to go this morning is just because of two reasons. [00:07:44] Speaker B: Two? [00:07:45] Speaker A: Yes. Oh, the, the Carolina Panthers are playing in Germany against the New York Giants. This game kicked off Mountain standard time at 7:30 in the morning. [00:07:58] Speaker B: That's real early. [00:08:00] Speaker A: Manchester United kicked off against Slicer City at 7am Mountain Standard Time. [00:08:06] Speaker B: Which one finishes first? [00:08:08] Speaker A: United's already won three to nothing. Life is. [00:08:11] Speaker B: Well, there you go. [00:08:11] Speaker A: See? And Carolina's currently winning. [00:08:14] Speaker B: Proper football is a fast, a quicker paced game than American football. [00:08:18] Speaker A: Yes, sir. No, you can, you can time your watch to it. In fact, I have to. You set aside two hours like, okay, I can watch one hour at lunch and then I can listen to the other one. Listen to the other hour while I'm at work. Sure. Which I gotta say, baseball and proper footy are two best sports to listen to the radio. [00:08:47] Speaker B: Oh yeah. [00:08:47] Speaker A: Still to this day. [00:08:49] Speaker B: Absolutely. Funny little side note. [00:08:52] Speaker A: Sure. [00:08:53] Speaker B: Did you know if you're watching baseball on either the MLB streaming or when baseball's on Apple tv plus that you can actually go into the audio menu of the broadcast and switch it to the radio feed but still get the video feed? [00:09:08] Speaker A: Yes. [00:09:09] Speaker B: Okay, cool. No, I, I just. That's one of the coolest things I've seen in a long time for radio feed because the announcers usually are better. [00:09:17] Speaker A: You might appreciate this for what it's worth because earlier on in the season I. I did the same thing where I was listening to the Phillies versus the Braves. Now you swap if you want a true indication of what Philly life is like, you swap from Bravo's play making to the Phillies and you will get two different kinds of. [00:09:42] Speaker B: Oh, absolutely. The Phillies feet is doom and gloom the whole time. Even if the pitch is an inch outside the season's over. Swabs. [00:09:50] Speaker A: It's like, all right. They don't, they don't actively curse because they're still, you know. [00:09:55] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:09:55] Speaker A: Publicly raining, but. [00:09:57] Speaker B: Right. [00:09:57] Speaker A: But you can hear the, the tone. [00:10:02] Speaker B: Zach. Zach Wheeler misses a strike by a quarter of an inch. The season's over. [00:10:06] Speaker A: Oh God, I can hear the screams from here. I gotta, I gotta say that the part two of why we're so up in Adamant is because the doggo sweet baby Clover is much probably like Helen in your dog in that they don't care about daylight savings time. [00:10:28] Speaker B: Nope. Like she starts getting antsy for food about 3:30. [00:10:33] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:10:34] Speaker B: No, she doesn't usually get fed till 5. [00:10:36] Speaker A: It's. Yeah. 4:30 has been the ticket. Or it's basically like everything is off by an hour as when it would. [00:10:43] Speaker B: Oh, but yeah. [00:10:45] Speaker A: Just because you get to quote, sleep in an hour. No, no, no. [00:10:50] Speaker B: You're getting up an hour early. [00:10:52] Speaker A: Says otherwise. Yes, yes, yes, yes. [00:10:55] Speaker B: Yep. Yeah. [00:10:57] Speaker A: And we had an introduction. We had an introduction between your dog and mine. [00:11:00] Speaker B: We did. It went okay. It. Oh, that's a funny thing. [00:11:04] Speaker A: Yes. [00:11:04] Speaker B: When Clover started barking the first time, like her high pitch bark. [00:11:09] Speaker A: Yes. [00:11:10] Speaker B: I meant to tell you this weeks ago. Her bark triggered the decibel warning on my watch. It triggered when she. They got to playing and she did that high pitched bark. It triggered the decibel warning higher than the Smile Empty Soul concert. [00:11:30] Speaker A: Wow. [00:11:32] Speaker B: It was just that high of a pitch and I think that close. [00:11:35] Speaker A: That's fantastic. [00:11:37] Speaker B: She hit 115 decibels. [00:11:40] Speaker A: Holy. [00:11:41] Speaker B: Yeah. And I'm like, oh my, no wonder. [00:11:45] Speaker A: My ears bleed from time to time. Right? [00:11:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:11:49] Speaker A: Jeez, I just save that stat that. [00:11:52] Speaker B: You just reminded me. Doggos meeting. And yeah, 115 decibels in your, your living room there. [00:11:59] Speaker A: I can appreciate the fact that your pupper being a bigger, bigger stature, maybe about another £40 on mine and just stands a little taller. Yes. Had barked more in my living room than you had heard from the entirety of owning Hel. [00:12:19] Speaker B: She was trying to get Clover to play. [00:12:21] Speaker A: Yeah. And she was. I mean they were having a great time. They were spinning around and being jackasses. It was great. [00:12:26] Speaker B: Yeah, it was great. [00:12:27] Speaker A: It's like they would actively have great time. The only problem that Clover has is with men. [00:12:34] Speaker B: Yeah, she didn't like me much. [00:12:37] Speaker A: Well, as soon as you spoke. [00:12:39] Speaker B: Yeah, she was fine with me. [00:12:41] Speaker A: Oh. [00:12:42] Speaker B: If I sat in the corner and quiet, she was fine. Yeah. [00:12:44] Speaker A: Yeah. So needless to say, she's not a part of this podcast, right? [00:12:47] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. Oh, that was, that was good though. [00:12:52] Speaker A: Oh yeah, man. [00:12:53] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:12:54] Speaker A: So I'm already liking this. So you were the genius I came up with. So what you think Friend. [00:13:02] Speaker B: Giving it friend. [00:13:03] Speaker A: Whatcha thinking Friend. Which is a great acronym for what the fuck. [00:13:10] Speaker B: What the fuck it is. That's why I say even in the new description is we've grown up a little bit. [00:13:18] Speaker A: Well, I actually haven't had a like alcoholic drink if in months. [00:13:25] Speaker B: Months. [00:13:27] Speaker A: I'm proud of you. Well, I had to do some quick. Well, I'll tell the quick version. I got in May after Pro, probably our podcast or something like that. I don't know, food poisoning. And I got so sick to the point that I had a panic attack. Okay. And since then it was having to wave these waves of like ah, this anxiety waves. So go to the doc. Not a fan of docs. Especially after this little roundabout of chaos and they're like, okay, well you know, get vertigo, all this jazz. So we're going to throw you on to this medication. Helped a little bit. Guess my iron count was a little bit low. And then we go, okay, that's fine. Kept with the iron, swapped a different medication. [00:14:21] Speaker B: Sure. [00:14:22] Speaker A: Well, the medication was not working so they said go ahead and double it. We're going to double it up. [00:14:29] Speaker B: Oh, fine. [00:14:30] Speaker A: Yeah, it was like, well, are you. And I had to ask a pharmacy buddy of ours or at least of a mine, hey, are they just. Are they around and seeing what sticks or is this a normal practice Comes come to turn out that you. This is the normal practice and you have to give it a couple, couple months to let this stuff seek in. [00:14:51] Speaker B: Kind of build up. [00:14:53] Speaker A: Yeah. But you know, anytime that I like, even if I had a shot, there would be a cold wave that would go from like one shoulder blade to the other. And you can feel like this anxiety pack come in. [00:15:07] Speaker B: Sure. [00:15:08] Speaker A: And explain it. But that's. It's for the point of like even an. A non alcoholic, like let's say bush na. Because it still has 0.55%. If you drink it too quickly, that same effect will come in and it's almost a little tunnel vision. [00:15:30] Speaker B: Weird. [00:15:30] Speaker A: So. Yeah. So I don't think that they actually fixed the problem. [00:15:37] Speaker B: Sure. [00:15:37] Speaker A: I think it's actually Veneer's disease. But of course there's no solution for that. [00:15:43] Speaker B: Right. [00:15:44] Speaker A: So right now the current medication is working as it is. [00:15:48] Speaker B: Sure. [00:15:49] Speaker A: Rolling on maybe month two. [00:15:52] Speaker B: Oh, gotcha. [00:15:53] Speaker A: Yeah. So it's. [00:15:55] Speaker B: That's the tough part. Figuring out the proper dose to make it work as effectively as it can. [00:16:00] Speaker A: Oh yeah. But that went from having like on it alpha brain and some other stuff. [00:16:08] Speaker B: Yeah. What. [00:16:09] Speaker A: Which was my daily drivers for like focusing in. [00:16:12] Speaker B: Sure. [00:16:13] Speaker A: I took. I basically went cold turkey on all that stuff. My God. Days. Days now seem like when you're at work. It is. It is not eight hours. It is eight weeks. It like time lapses are a lot harder when you're not having something to focus. [00:16:31] Speaker B: That. That's. That's your ADD there, buddy. [00:16:34] Speaker A: Oh, boy. Do you want to know it? [00:16:37] Speaker B: Eight hours seems like eight days. Yeah, that's. That's your add. [00:16:41] Speaker A: Oh, no, that's. That's a midlife crisis. Yeah. [00:16:46] Speaker B: Well, you know, some. Some days even to us that, you know, don't have ADD or adhd, eight hours sometimes feels like eight days too. [00:16:55] Speaker A: Oh, boy. This last week, especially with that said, I did find. We did find yesterday that what is it? That going to a city brew. There was a Porsche outside and the vanity plate for it was midlife. [00:17:16] Speaker B: That's awesome. [00:17:17] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:17:18] Speaker B: Midlife on a Porsche. That's fantastic. [00:17:20] Speaker A: That is. [00:17:22] Speaker B: Hey, no, no truer statement there. [00:17:24] Speaker A: Wow. Just go for it. Good on you. [00:17:28] Speaker B: We. We were in. When we were in Billings, we saw a Corvette driving around with the license plate of single. [00:17:35] Speaker A: I bet. [00:17:38] Speaker B: And I'm like that. [00:17:40] Speaker A: I'm surprised I didn't see that. Okay. But we'll give a time stamp to this being November 10, 2024. Just on the. On the coattails of the election, there was. And this is perplexing because this is Montana. [00:18:01] Speaker B: Right. [00:18:03] Speaker A: Pickup truck that had on one side the Trump flag and on the other you had the Mexican flag. As a little. I, I wanted to confuse. No, I wanted a conversation. That's what I wanted. Because there's always. You have to remind yourself that there's always two sides of a story. There's. There's somebody that is right now having their main character story going on right now. And so you always have to think it's not always about me. There's other people and it's like be. Get over your God complex, as it were. But I wanted to con. Like, I would love to have a conversation with that person just to see. [00:18:50] Speaker B: What flag and a Trump Trump sticker or flag. [00:18:55] Speaker A: Yeah. And even now, like somebody like we caught a F150 with an openly Nazi sticker on it. It's like, oh, that's. [00:19:04] Speaker B: Wow. [00:19:05] Speaker A: How do you explain that to work? [00:19:08] Speaker B: I don't know. [00:19:09] Speaker A: Or like how does that, how does that conversation go? Oh. [00:19:15] Speaker B: Oh, yes. What you thinking, friend? [00:19:21] Speaker A: I'm thinking it's time for the play stupid, stupid games, win stupid prizes. [00:19:30] Speaker B: Oh, God. Stupid game, stupid prizes. Oh. [00:19:33] Speaker A: If you play. We have a nominee for. If you play stupid games, you win stupid prizes. [00:19:41] Speaker B: Like 50% of the country voting for Donald Trump. [00:19:45] Speaker A: Oh, no. Let's spec. Let's be more specific. Thank you. Otherwise I was going to go. [00:19:52] Speaker B: I almost, I almost stumbled on specific too. [00:19:55] Speaker A: Oh, I was, I was gonna just fall down the ladder. Words are hard. Oh, brother. Sober. The. Okay. [00:20:06] Speaker B: Sober. Words are hard. [00:20:08] Speaker A: In this edition of Play Stupid Games get stupid prizes, you have some 22 year old kid that is posting out on Twitter, your body, my choice. [00:20:23] Speaker B: Oh, yep. [00:20:28] Speaker A: Now what do you think that the reward of that stupidity is? [00:20:34] Speaker B: The reward of that stupidity? [00:20:37] Speaker A: Yes, sir. [00:20:39] Speaker B: Hopefully at least getting berated online. At the bare minimum, the dude got. [00:20:46] Speaker A: Doxed within 15 minutes. Oh, boy. [00:20:51] Speaker B: Because that was. I read somewhere that that was basically your right winged Nazi Republican mega Republican answer to my body, my choice. Like all these women that are angry now at Republicans for wanting to take away their health. Their health rights. [00:21:12] Speaker A: Man. [00:21:14] Speaker B: Good. [00:21:15] Speaker A: It's. [00:21:15] Speaker B: I'm glad he got ripped a new one. [00:21:16] Speaker A: But. Yeah. No, I have to. This is a shame because you have to think of like when you and I were at 22 a whole 18 years ago that we were dumb as well. Yeah. And we were just having a girl. [00:21:35] Speaker B: To talk to us at the age of 22. [00:21:37] Speaker A: Absolutely. We're. [00:21:40] Speaker B: We're not exactly what we would call ladies men. [00:21:44] Speaker A: No. [00:21:44] Speaker B: But. [00:21:44] Speaker A: But also the Internet wasn't as toxic. Toxic. [00:21:51] Speaker B: Yeah, there we go. [00:21:52] Speaker A: I was, I was going to say it's not only toxic, but by the. The means of having so much availability at one's fingertips that you can do so much damage in a blink of an eye. And it's nothing to be said that it's like the proverbial person can't say the thing and then turn around the corner and get smacked in the face. [00:22:16] Speaker B: Right. [00:22:17] Speaker A: I. [00:22:18] Speaker B: The problem with the Internet now is there's no repercussion for people's actions because you've got a certain group of people that believe nothing should be censored online, even though it's. There's a lot of wrong of what they're saying. [00:22:36] Speaker A: There's a lot of anonymity. [00:22:39] Speaker B: Keyboard warriors that don't get any re. Don't have any repercussion for what they say or do online. And it's kind of getting tiring, honestly. [00:22:50] Speaker A: Oh boy, it's. It's exhausting. I mean when you already had a. 12 months of political ads. [00:22:59] Speaker B: 12 months. It's been 12 years. [00:23:03] Speaker A: Yeah. 100 years ago, back in December of 2023. [00:23:07] Speaker B: Yeah, checks out. Your math is solid on. [00:23:10] Speaker A: They were already starting. Oh man. Not. Not good. Not good right now. [00:23:18] Speaker B: I. Speaking of that, how's your, how's your week been? Have you gone through all the emotions like me? [00:23:24] Speaker A: Dude, I. What is the. The 12 step program where it's not 12. Jesus Christ. Where you're going through anger and negotiation. [00:23:37] Speaker B: Anger, negotiation, tolerance, acceptance. [00:23:43] Speaker A: Yes. [00:23:44] Speaker B: Yeah. There's all sorts of them. There's all sorts of steps to your grieving process. [00:23:49] Speaker A: Yes. [00:23:50] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:23:50] Speaker A: I honestly wait because again, doggo o'clock, waking up at five in the morning on Wednesday morning was like, okay, we're up. Check the phone. And a wave of numbers. [00:24:06] Speaker B: Right? And that's what I was like. Oh God. And it just sadly it goes to prove how sexist and racist this country truly is. And that's the only answer we're not going to make. Logical answer to me. [00:24:23] Speaker A: We're not going to make it all political. No, no, it was just more of a. I. There was gut check reaction just from like okay. [00:24:31] Speaker B: Oh I, I will say though, in a lot of. Not to go too deep into it, but in a lot of your Republican states they lost their super majorities. So on the state sides they didn't fair as well. Which I'm like, good. [00:24:47] Speaker A: Huh. [00:24:47] Speaker B: Especially like up here in Montana too. They did. They lost their super majority. We gained 10 seats. [00:24:55] Speaker A: Hey. [00:24:55] Speaker B: So I'm like good, but. But no, literally Wednesday I went through. Starting with, you know, I, I self medicate with. With music. Yeah. I started at the office at work with. Starting the day with the sick puppy's father. And it got progressively heavier after that. [00:25:22] Speaker A: Yes. [00:25:23] Speaker B: And I. I actually ended up. And I don't listen to this music very often, but I ended up listening to some death metal by the. By midafternoon because that's just where I was at. [00:25:37] Speaker A: Yeah, it. There was a. A couple of like the. Where you clap your cheeks with your hands and just like come on, we gotta shape up. We gota. We got pick it up here. [00:25:49] Speaker B: We made it through the first four years. We'll make it through another four. It'll be fine. [00:25:53] Speaker A: There were a lot of. There was a lot of guardrails and I imagine it's going to be like a knee system that checks. [00:26:00] Speaker B: They don't. Like, they don't. [00:26:01] Speaker A: Things will be. [00:26:02] Speaker B: They don't understand how hard it is to actually tear away these programs away from people. [00:26:11] Speaker A: And for what it was worth the overweight. I. The amount of suicides that happened off of that was just sad. [00:26:20] Speaker B: It is. Yep. [00:26:22] Speaker A: And the. Because they don't call them hotlines now, they call them warm lines. [00:26:28] Speaker B: Okay. [00:26:28] Speaker A: Suicide like of suicide prevention and everything like that. Where. [00:26:33] Speaker B: Oh, they're. [00:26:33] Speaker A: They were. [00:26:34] Speaker B: They were all get out. [00:26:36] Speaker A: I would imagine they could not keep up with the demand is what I was reading on one of them. But you know, that's one of the things that just like, okay, every now and then you, you have to be the person that has to go and check in on your friends if, if he knows, like, hey, you know, how you doing? How you hanging? [00:26:57] Speaker B: Yeah, what you thinking, friend? [00:27:00] Speaker A: Yeah, so. And this considering that we have known ourselves or at. We've known our. [00:27:07] Speaker B: We've known ourselves for most of our lives. Wait, that's not it. [00:27:15] Speaker A: We've known each other since middle school. [00:27:18] Speaker B: Like six. [00:27:19] Speaker A: Bullish. [00:27:20] Speaker B: Sixth. Sixth grade. Maybe a little before. [00:27:23] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, whatever. The math is on that. [00:27:26] Speaker B: Math is hard. [00:27:27] Speaker A: And now we're 40. [00:27:28] Speaker B: That's like a million years ago. [00:27:31] Speaker A: Yeah, it's clearly a thousand years ago. [00:27:33] Speaker B: Clearly. Clearly the 90s when times were much simpler. Clothes were bright colored bubblegum pop music was taking over the world. [00:27:47] Speaker A: Jinko, my friend. [00:27:51] Speaker B: Jinkos are having a comeback. [00:27:53] Speaker A: I. There's a. Okay, watch you. This might not be a very particular case scenario, but if you look in the world of fashion, they. They go through the waves of like revivals. It's nostalgia. It's basically that if you're Hollywood, you just nostalgia the out of anything that's already been made again. So with that in Mind Jinkos are back, baby. [00:28:18] Speaker B: Did you break out the old jingos, brother? [00:28:22] Speaker A: I. I'd love. No, I. I do have a. The comfiest pair of baggier pants that I've since high school. And on top of that, the holiest Carolina shirt that you've ever seen known to man. Like, it would make. [00:28:37] Speaker B: It's your Sunday shirt. [00:28:38] Speaker A: Street punk proud, actually. Yeah. [00:28:40] Speaker B: Yeah, it's your holy shirt. [00:28:42] Speaker A: But you got to be thinking, man, that Carolina Panthers have been in existence for 30 years and so is that shirt. [00:28:48] Speaker B: That's awesome. Yes, that is awesome. I. [00:28:53] Speaker A: Well, I mean, much like you, you're like, you still have a couple shirts that have gone through the rotation from being in high school to now. [00:29:01] Speaker B: Yes, very much so. Yeah. I. [00:29:05] Speaker A: Which I'm not mad at. I was like, hey, at least we're keeping the streak alive, people. [00:29:10] Speaker B: Was like, that's so cool. Where'd you buy that? Hot Topic? No, I got this from. I got this shirt 30 years ago. [00:29:17] Speaker A: Okay. And riddle me this, that if you were to give up half of your wardrobe to a retro clothes store, they would turn around and sell it for $40 per t. Yes, absolutely. [00:29:34] Speaker B: Absolutely. And that's. Yeah. Because I've got some weird, weird retro. Like they'd be. And it's sad to say that the bands we listened to in high school and even earlier are now considered to be retro. [00:29:50] Speaker A: We're retro new way or new metal. [00:29:53] Speaker B: Oh, God, that bugs me that it's new metal. Is I. It doesn't bug me that new metal's coming back because I've always been a big fan of new metal, but it is weird to say that new metal is popular again. [00:30:10] Speaker A: Fair enough. Well, you have new metal that's headlining these tours. [00:30:15] Speaker B: Yes. [00:30:16] Speaker A: Which I had. I only had one topic and then we could probably call it for this if you're good. So I gave you an assignment. You did an off air assignment. [00:30:29] Speaker B: Oh, man. [00:30:29] Speaker A: For those who are listening, I gave Ed an assignment that based off of a tweet from as of course, I just had it and then I just lost it just as fast. [00:30:42] Speaker B: That's okay. [00:30:43] Speaker A: God damn it. Thanks Twitter for being like one is shitty. Because if you have some A focus on something, if you leave leave it on for two seconds, it magically off. So at amplify her voice found that the When We Were Young festival, which has a lot of bands between I think four different stages. [00:31:11] Speaker B: Yes. [00:31:13] Speaker A: 30 or sorry, 3.5% is women and non binary versus 96.5 men in these bands. [00:31:26] Speaker B: Wow. That's staggering actually. [00:31:30] Speaker A: So of. Of the bands that were of like we when we were young, coming up in the 2025 October, you have like the Somerset, Stray Light, Run Destroy Boys, which I love them. Paris Taylor Corn and Avril Lavine. Now Avril Lavine is one of the top five year bands for this. Well, for this. [00:31:56] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. This year's kind or this, this upcoming show. [00:31:59] Speaker A: So, so the top five, you have Panic at the Disco, Blink 182, Weezer, Avril, and then the Offspring. [00:32:08] Speaker B: The 2000s called. They want their mixed CD back. [00:32:12] Speaker A: Oh, not even that, man. Like when Panic and Panic at the Disco is performing a fever you can't sweat out in its entirety and more. Blink182 is doing enema of the State. Take off your pants jacket. Self titled and more like. They put that into the poster. Yes. Now I'm. Because we are who we are. We also went to Sick New World because of your. [00:32:41] Speaker B: Yes. [00:32:42] Speaker A: Love affection for Lincoln. [00:32:44] Speaker B: It's. It's not a. Just a. It's a love affair really. [00:32:48] Speaker A: It is a love affair. And I'm gonna come back to this. [00:32:51] Speaker B: Okay. [00:32:51] Speaker A: But for April 2025, both of these things are in Las Vegas, the festival grounds and I have been to when we were young. I. I have some pairing advice, but we'll do that next podcast. But for now, you have Metallica, Linkin Park, Queensland, Stone Age, AFI and Evanescence as your top five on the poster. [00:33:15] Speaker B: Okay. [00:33:17] Speaker A: My challenge to you, Ed, was if you were able to replace one band from either of these highlights and in order to put in another female vocalist or female band and Linkin park does not count. [00:33:34] Speaker B: I know. I was going to say that doesn't count because they. Well, considering their new lead singer. Or I shouldn't say lead singer because that irritates me. Ho. Lead singer is a female Emily Armstrong. [00:33:47] Speaker A: Yes. So I had to. Because I knew you were going to go around and just say, well, no. [00:33:53] Speaker B: I actually put that on on my own. I put that as a guideline for myself, believe it or not. [00:33:58] Speaker A: Oh, see, we are growing. [00:34:01] Speaker B: See, you knew what I was thinking. [00:34:03] Speaker A: Yes, that's friendship right there, audience. So who. Who would you eliminate? Actually, I could. I could list this out again for you or which, which one do you want to prefer? Do you prefer Sick New World, which has more of your new metal and. [00:34:21] Speaker B: Old metal and actually we'll do both. Oh, I came prepared for class. Look at that. [00:34:31] Speaker A: Look. Look at you. [00:34:32] Speaker B: Look at me. [00:34:32] Speaker A: Overachieving big boy pants. Big boy pants and everything. Let's Go. [00:34:36] Speaker B: All right, so from your high school date list, the. Let's start with When We Were Young. [00:34:42] Speaker A: Okay. Starting with When We Were Young, you have Panic at the Disco, Blink 182, Weezer, Everliving, and the Offspring. [00:34:52] Speaker B: So the only one I would logically remove from that to replace would be Panic at the Disco. Okay. I actually have. [00:35:00] Speaker A: Who are you replacing? [00:35:01] Speaker B: I actually have two that I. That I keep on wavering back and forth. So I'll just say them both stand Atlantic or As December Falls. [00:35:14] Speaker A: All right. I like these very good because. [00:35:20] Speaker B: So I've really been out of the two I've been more into as December Falls. So I think I'd lean more towards as December Falls. [00:35:30] Speaker A: All right. I dig with that. I do have. Now, who are you taking out of Sick New World? You have Metallica, Linga Park, Queens of Stone Age, AFI, and Evanescence. [00:35:44] Speaker B: And this. This would purely be. Because I've seen them. I would ax afi. [00:35:51] Speaker A: That one does seem more of the When We Were Young festival kind of does. [00:35:55] Speaker B: Yeah. So if I had to pick a female fronted band to replace, I would go with Sleeping With Sirens or Straight Line Stitch. [00:36:08] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, I. I have. [00:36:11] Speaker B: Yeah. That's my. That's my thoughts. [00:36:16] Speaker A: Okay. I'm. I'm having. It's easier for me to dig deeper on Sick New World than it is on When We Were Young. For Sick New World, I would bring back Jack Off Jill. [00:36:32] Speaker B: Jack Off. Well, Jack Off Jill could. Honestly, yeah, they could be in the When We Were Young festival too, though. That's one of those bands that could cross over like afi. Honestly, I mean, if you had. But Jack off joke, because I think you had the. [00:36:47] Speaker A: You. You had somebody like the Jackoff Jill, but you then had branches off like Scarling and other stuff like that, which would make it lower into the list, much like your orgy Lunacoil Birthday Massacre down there. But I think that they. I myself would replace Evanescence just because I hate them. [00:37:08] Speaker B: Well, that kind of defeats the purpose if you're. You're eliminating a female fronted band. [00:37:14] Speaker A: Well, that's true. And as. As somebody that has seen Lincoln Park, Queens of Stone Age and afi, man. [00:37:26] Speaker B: I do find it funny that neither one of us axed Metallica. [00:37:33] Speaker A: No, you let you give recognition to the kings of 90s. [00:37:37] Speaker B: Yeah, I know, I know. I just. It's just funny to me that we're not particularly huge fans of Metallica. We could, you know, for the right price, we'd be like, all right. But it's just funny to me that neither One of us were like, let's get rid of Metallica. [00:37:55] Speaker A: Yeah. In this case, I. I think AFI would go again just because, like. Like how we said it seemed like more of a sick new world when we were young. Actually, we have seen. Yeah. Because the. It's like the afi, right? With the used and. [00:38:11] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:38:12] Speaker A: All that jazz. [00:38:13] Speaker B: Yeah. No, I. I mean, like, for when we were young, I even had thoughts of, like, Tsunami bomb and stuff like that for it. [00:38:26] Speaker A: But I. I'd almost go L7. [00:38:31] Speaker B: Okay. Yep. I. I just. I don't know. [00:38:35] Speaker A: Or actually bikini. I would go bikini kill. [00:38:37] Speaker B: Well, bikini kill. That one. You could. Well, yeah, that. That would fit in. In the. When we were young. Yeah, I was. [00:38:49] Speaker A: Because you're still getting more punkish, but you're just like. And having seen average at. When we were young. Yeah, she does it. She does a hell of a good job. [00:38:57] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:38:58] Speaker A: Sneaky. Good pick that. You know what? If they're playing, I would absolutely go see at the end. [00:39:04] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:39:05] Speaker A: Jimmy World. [00:39:05] Speaker B: Jimmy Eat World. I would. They're one band that I'd love to see. [00:39:10] Speaker A: They were so good, dude. And I was like. And I didn't know very much of the. But then you. You learn that you know more songs. [00:39:19] Speaker B: That's like, years ago when. When we saw 10 Years Live or when I saw 10 Years, I'm like, oh, God, I know more of this than I thought. [00:39:28] Speaker A: Exactly. [00:39:29] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:39:30] Speaker A: Or. [00:39:31] Speaker B: Or when I saw head PE recently, I'm like, well, shit, I know more than I thought. [00:39:37] Speaker A: So I think that next podcast going to recap some stuff that we've seen over 2024. And I will give my tips for anybody going to the Las Vegas festival grounds. [00:39:51] Speaker B: Nice. [00:39:52] Speaker A: Yeah. Keep them. Keep them on the hook. [00:39:55] Speaker B: Ooh. [00:39:55] Speaker A: Now let's see if we remember. [00:39:57] Speaker B: See if we remember to cover those topics when we do this again. [00:40:00] Speaker A: Yeah. Yes. So what you think it, friend? [00:40:04] Speaker B: I think we should call it quits for today and will it pick it up again. [00:40:11] Speaker A: Perfect. Well, you can find me on Twitter because I refuse to say X at I am Cody L. You can find. [00:40:21] Speaker B: Me at Blind Worl on Mastodon, Ed Underscore on Threads, and just. I'm no longer on X. I deleted my account. [00:40:32] Speaker A: I should probably do the same, but we'll get into that AI conversation later on. [00:40:37] Speaker B: All right? [00:40:38] Speaker A: All right. Well, thank you, everyone, for listening and have a great day.